April 10, 2021
— Open Blogger
Perhaps there is some hope of nudging some kids back from the abyss.
That liberal story stands in direct opposition to the critical one, and of course it does: the critical method is designed to be ruthlessly critical of liberalism. It is, in fact, openly and explicitly anti-liberal by design in addition to tending to present illiberally. For contrast, where the liberal story I just told is one worthy of hope and pride in what we’ve accomplished (and in under merely two hundred and fifty years after millennia of failing to do so before now), the critical story is one of pessimism and cynicism. It points to those failures in history and says that the American Experiment never worked, and it tells us that those failures tell us something more about ourselves than having found a way to escape them. It is, of course, ironic that it does this uniquely from a position that exists only because up to this point that Experiment has succeeded.
It also stands in direct opposition to the specifically Critical Social Justice story, which is the critical story of the day. That story has the gall to stand there in the success of liberalism and tell us that liberalism can’t work because the system itself was built in a corrupted state by the bigotries and biases of those who established it. The American Experiment is "from many, one,†and the Critical Social Justice interpretation of this is that "oneness†is how dominant groups in society erase and ignore the lived experiences and realities of the oppressed (or, more often, once-oppressed) and thus keep them down. In place of this message of universalism amongst individuals, it posits something like group-based social feudalism and does so on the basis of the worst possible groups we could choose for such a situation, if fragmenting as such is something we absolutely must do: markers of identity like race, sex, gender, and sexuality.
This video comes right out and suggests that The Enlightenment was a good thing. That people being offended is not the end of the world. Amazing.
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This is why I say I break libertarian on many social issues but don't feel like I'm 'liberal' about much of anything--us millennials never knew a time when liberalism meant something other than being bossed around by the self-styled cultural elite.
Posted by: CppThis at April 10, 2021 11:45 AM (zcf1k)
https://tinyurl.com/yfdmw4j3
Posted by: Tami at April 10, 2021 11:46 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Northernlurker, now with more lurk than ever at April 10, 2021 11:51 AM (lgiXo)
Good Morning ...
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'OY!' Alot These Days ... at April 10, 2021 11:55 AM (okV1R)
Believe it or not, the US Constitution has the solution to all "social justice" problems.
Posted by: Justsayin' at April 10, 2021 11:57 AM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 11:58 AM (Cxk7w)
It was a group of people at a bus stop and a man says to Opus, (something like) 'you penguin types offend me.' And someone else pops up with 'That sign offends me.' 'Hey! I painted that sign and I'm offended that you're offended.'
And finally the all come to the realization that "Oh my God! Life is offensive!!!"
And they all run away, leaving Opus Penguin at the bus stop, proclaiming "Offensetivity" ...
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'OY!' Alot These Days ... at April 10, 2021 12:00 PM (okV1R)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:02 PM (Cxk7w)
Dan Crenshaw has a detached retina in what he calls "half a good eye".... https://tinyurl.com/yfdmw4j3 Posted by: Tami at April 10, 2021 11:46 AM (cF8AT)I can say from experience that he's got a long road ahead of him.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2021 12:03 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by:Northernlurker, now with more lurk than everat April 10, 2021 11:51 AM (lgiXo)
White people are God's mistake. Which kind of calls into question just how omniscient and wonderful this "God" person is, and starts the road to atheism.Plus, unless you want self loathing, if your church is teaching that you are a monster based off your skin color, why would you keep going? In a country that is at least 50% not church going what is the wisdom in trying to push more of the ones who are into the not category, unless you are working for the one who is fighting God?
Same applied to a country- does trying to tear down a large portion of the population lift up the others, or does it create a society all in the muck as the crabs start pulling down anyone who tries to leave the bucket?
Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 12:03 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Northernlurker, now with more lurk than ever at April 10, 2021 12:03 PM (lgiXo)
Sorry Brazil, this is payback for that bad coke back in the 80s.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 10, 2021 12:04 PM (Jsc+R)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 10, 2021 12:05 PM (yQpMk)
If I had to classify myself it would be an American Nationalist/Populist.
Which would essentially be an an American Chauvanist always seeking the balance between Liberty and Order but prioritizing Liberty.
It's a lot of mush, but these are mushy, dangerous times.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 10, 2021 12:06 PM (GJH+Q)
Posted by:Skipat April 10, 2021 11:58 AM (Cxk7w)
Socialists and others who believe in rule of them by force have long recognized the power of words and branding, so they latched on to one that talked freedom and took it over live an invading parasite and march what remains along demanding people pretend the original host remains.Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 12:06 PM (Ojki1)
I'm going to guess it was intentional, but sometimes it's hard to tell.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 10, 2021 12:06 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 10, 2021 12:08 PM (Jsc+R)
Posted by: Muldoon at April 10, 2021 12:08 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Mike Morgan at April 10, 2021 12:10 PM (OQc7P)
Muldoon, the Scrabble game needs to give all of the pieces the same points value. It's for etilement equity, you see.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2021 12:11 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:12 PM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: Jmel at April 10, 2021 12:13 PM (bVhJi)
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'OY!' Alot These Days ... at April 10, 2021 12:14 PM (okV1R)
This is an observation, not a complaint, but I can't read that Fredrick Douglass item. The contrast is too low for me. I need new glasses. Posted by: Northernlurker, now with more lurk than ever at April 10, 2021 12:03 PM (lgiXo)
I don't think it's just you. The image is fairly low resolution and the text is in multiple colors. I've always had problems with that type of graphic and I test very well on all the eye exams...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at April 10, 2021 12:14 PM (ZSK0i)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:14 PM (Cxk7w)
I Coined a New Word Yesterday - a limerick
When it comes down to gender what's the inference?
If you're female or male makes no difference?
I'll take what you give
We should live, and let live
Go ahead, express your gender pre-tend-ference
Posted by: Muldoon at April 10, 2021 12:15 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Northernlurker, now with more lurk than ever at April 10, 2021 11:51 AM (lgiXo)
I've been makimg myself scare here this week, some because I'm re-reading The Wheel of Time, mostly becaise my blodd has been boiling about this ginned up racism bs. Which is also why i started a long series, to give my brain something to do other than dwell on the evil. This is jist my own opinion, but i feel that the racism is more prevalent today, tha when i was in middle school in the 60s in central Louisiana. And i mean to explicity state that the racism is flowing hate at my white ass, not the other way around.
Posted by: BifBewalski - CRT sux moose dong at April 10, 2021 12:17 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by:Jmel
This is good to know. I have no first hand knowledge, as not kids or grandkids in skrool.
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 12:17 PM (E0OEG)
First, they culturally misappropriate "equality" from it's use in scripture as cited in the Constitution, then they mal-transform it to prepare the battlespace for an all-out assault on meritocracy and private property...
Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at April 10, 2021 12:18 PM (MkuC5)
It's the consolidation of power by self-appointed elites to rule over the population. It's that simple.
Posted by: Justsayin' at April 10, 2021 12:19 PM (Fs5vw)
...yelled out 'Green!' To every question that could possibly be seen.
***
Q: What did you have for breakfast?
A: Green! ...Eggs and ham.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 10, 2021 12:20 PM (m45I2)
This is some bullshit at :40
Posted by: DaveA at April 10, 2021 12:20 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: BifBewalski - CRT sux moose dong at April 10, 2021 12:22 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 12:23 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:24 PM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:12 PM (Cxk7w)
As Bidet said he was going to do, too, before he had to hide that and pretend the words didn't come out of his mouth. So if any Bidet voter expresses concern over this just laugh in their face. It's like the *religious people for Bidet* (I forget their title) who are stunned he not only isn't anti-abortion but is looking at removing all the roadblocks to public funding.Their pretending their "morals" are now offended because Bidet put a fig leaf over his machinations in order allow these people to vote how they wanted to do all along doesn't work. They made the choice because they chose to, the only person they are fooling in pretending "they didn't know" is maybe themselves. Maybe by reconciling that they can discover if not happiness, less self loathing which they likely also displace onto others.
Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 12:24 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: SFGoth at April 10, 2021 12:24 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Northernlurker, now with more lurk than ever at April 10, 2021 12:25 PM (lgiXo)
What comes next is probably widespread but decentralized and low-key resistance activities--think WWII occupied factory workers failing to meet their quotas--coupled with a messy leftist civil war as the various sub-sects discover that in a totalitarian system only one of them gets to put the jackboot on everyone else's face.
Posted by: CppThis at April 10, 2021 12:25 PM (zcf1k)
Posted by: Night Moves at April 10, 2021 12:25 PM (90qrx)
I'm screwed, we have not a pat of butter here for days and I was thinking of grilled ham and cheese.Posted by:Skip at April 10, 2021 12:24 PM
have you tried using mayonnaise instead of butter? it sounds counter-intuitive, but it works
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 10, 2021 12:26 PM (DUIap)
I was thinking of grilled ham and cheese. Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:24Skip, I switched from butter to mayo for grilled cheese years ago. Much better.
Posted by: olddog in mo at April 10, 2021 12:27 PM (ju2Fy)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 10, 2021 12:27 PM (R/m4+)
One thing I find very disconcerting in the SJW lexicon is the emergence of rhetoric inserting the words "equity" and "inequity" in place of "inequality."
This. I'm about to abandon iHeartRadio due to the non-stop SJW browbeating in the ads. One particularly noxious one has a Millennial Karen solemnly informing me that "we have an equity problem here in America". It's 24x7 lecturing and I've had enough. Too bad, because the podcast was a good one but the platform sucks.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 10, 2021 12:29 PM (W4eKo)
Posted by: olddog in mo at April 10, 2021 12:30 PM (ju2Fy)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 10, 2021 12:30 PM (VVEnO)
Posted by: mea culpa at April 10, 2021 12:31 PM (C6qce)
Posted by: DB- just DB at April 10, 2021 12:32 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by:Skip
Mayo.
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 12:32 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 10, 2021 12:33 PM (03n3v)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:33 PM (Cxk7w)
I don't really care if people agree or not. Big Tech is following the direction of the New York bankers, and American cowardice on this issue will cost millions of people everything they have. Which, as Weimar could tell you, is the most fertile ground for nationalist dictatorship.
Posted by: trev006 at April 10, 2021 12:34 PM (0HpOW)
Posted by:Notorious BFDat April 10, 2021 12:29 PM (W4eKo)
I wonder, once the leftists get their dream of "True equity" how many of those perceived to have more will still bust their ass to make things and provide those services that not everyone can do, like brain surgery, while so many others are comfortable just sitting on their ass eating Cheetos and certain they will be the next Youtube star.
But at least being left to die because state health care can't afford you any more will be equal...well, except for the powerful what are more equal and won't face that anyway.
Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 12:36 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: olddog in mo at April 10, 2021 12:36 PM (ju2Fy)
As far as the timeline goes, I postulate that Kennedyism had become a fascist skin suit by the late 70s,
I think that the inevitable end began when not a single Donk, not even Conscience of the Senate Joe Lieberman, voted to remove BJ. The message was clear. The law doesn't apply to Donks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 10, 2021 12:36 PM (VVEnO)
"It is the supreme irony of the Liberal view that it is precisely when its deepest intent shall have been realized in the world, and all men shall have been "liberated" from the yoke of transcendent standards, when even the pretense of belief in the other world shall have vanished--it is precisely then that life as the Liberal knows or desires it shall have become impossible; for the "new man" that disbelief produces can only see in Liberalism itself the last of the illusions which Liberalism wished to dispel."
So-called classical liberalism is an empty cloud of rhetoric that conceals a belief in nothing, and as we see today it's completely powerless to mount a defense against the much more vital forces of hatred and destruction.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at April 10, 2021 12:36 PM (0Uf+z)
Fucking POS Colorado won't lift the mask mandate because "The Fourth Wave" is coming
Pretty much the same here in Ohio. DeWinemom is positively gleeful whenever the incidence levels (supposedly) increase. I expect face diaper mandates in force here next year at this time. It's gone way beyond the absurd.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 10, 2021 12:38 PM (W4eKo)
good points, but when the hateful Karens go crazy and stomp their feet, they are not logically thinking "you disagree with my opinion" .. they are assuming their opinion is Absolute Truth, and disagreements are Evil and Murderous. Most of the worst of them think like Bill Ayers ... our ideas are Supremely Correct and millions of those that hold to old Christian Patriot ideals may have to die to make room for our Higher Authority.
imo, most of them don't feel they are chilling free speech, or squashing dissent ... they are noble defenders of Truth, and we the deplorable troglodytes must be destroyed for poisonous thought that will kill their Utopian Society. ...
As with all their Orwellian thought, they have been brainwashed into being the very thing they accuse Liberty minded patriots of being. They are unaware of their own primal screaming, and they don't become self aware and healed, they become stuck in their primal id state (of hate for the other). imo this is "engineered" (in schools, Hollywood, etc.)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 10, 2021 12:38 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by:Anonosaurus Wrecksat April 10, 2021 12:30 PM (VVEnO)
Spoiler- you can't have a utopia anyway because human nature and fallibility will never allow for it to be turned into the perfect cog which that machine requires.Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 12:40 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 12:46 PM (Cxk7w)
Once in his shop a workman wrought,
With languid head and listless thought,
When through the open window's space,
Behold, a camel thrust his face!
"My nose is cold," he meekly cried;
"Oh, let me warm it by thy side!"
Since no denial word was said,
In came the nose, in came the he ad:
As sure as sermon follows text,
The long and scraggly neck came next;
And then, as falls the threatening storm,
In leaped the whole ungainly form.
Aghast, the owner gazed around,
And the rude invader frowned,
Convinced, as closer still he pressed,
There was no room for such a guest;
Yet more astonished, heard him say,
"If thou art troubled, go away,
For in this place I choose to stay."
O, youthful hearts for gladness born,
Treat not this Arab lore with scorn!
To evil habits' earliest wile
Lend neither ear, no glance, nor smile.
Choke the dark fountain ere it flows,
Nor e'en admit the camel's nose.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 10, 2021 12:46 PM (mht8P)
A clear effort is being made to indoctrinate people into opposing the ideas of individual rights and individual responsibility that are at the heart of the Western Civilization upon which Canada is based.
The Post Millennial has reported on the so-called ‘anti-racism’ training being pushed by the federal government.
And as absurd as you may have imagined it would be, the reality is probably even worse.
https://tinyurl.com/uzk6rr8
Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2021 12:50 PM (1yPl/)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2021 12:52 PM (1yPl/)
The question of Truth is irrelevant to these people. None of their arguments are oriented toward defending Truth as a principle, or even defending their ideology as fundamentally true. They're just weapons to be used in order to seize power, which is closest thing they hold to a principle.
Them holding power = good; their enemies holding power = bad; and anything standing between them and power needs to be destroyed. This is ultimately what they mean by "equity," whether they understand it or not.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at April 10, 2021 12:52 PM (0Uf+z)
Posted by:Notorious BFDat April 10, 2021 12:29 PM (W4eKo)
When the Pedowood tribe fucks up advertising... How much do you trust them to win wars??
Posted by: trev006 at April 10, 2021 12:53 PM (IW0jo)
A clear effort is being made to indoctrinate people into opposing the ideas of individual rights and individual responsibility that are at the heart of the Western Civilization upon which Canada is based.
The Post Millennial has reported on the so-called ‘anti-racism’ training being pushed by the federal government.
And as absurd as you may have imagined it would be, the reality is probably even worse.
https://tinyurl.com/uzk6rr8
Posted by:andycanuckat April 10, 2021 12:50 PM (1yPl/)
Some people see Star Trek's Borg as an ideal state of being. You can be diverse on the outside, but all hivemind on the inside. And it is ok to assimilate by force, as the ends justify the means.Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 12:53 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'OY!' Alot These Days ... at April 10, 2021 12:14 PM
Whenever I see something super-woke on TV, I make sure to jump to my feet, clap loudly, and scream "Finally!" or "It's about time!". If anyone objects, I ask if they're a whatever-phobe that hates whatever group was represented. I get more silent compliance than objections, which is a bad sign...
Posted by: Grimmy at April 10, 2021 12:54 PM (haqHj)
The very fact that this freakish garbage has *any* place in society, much less in "education", much less as a real factor in "education", suggests it's already a society of dumbed-down, hollowed out, empty people who are not in any meaningful sense "citizens", and certainly nothing resembling Americans in terms of values and mindset.
The national non-reaction to last year's national racist-totalitarian street festival, on top of the non-reaction to the science-free suspension of virtually all liberty and common sense, imply this is it, this is what's left of the country. None of this absurd and vile racist power-mongering and hate would have any purchase whatsoever in the America of just a few years ago.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2021 12:55 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: InCali at April 10, 2021 12:56 PM (ov5G+)
Posted by: Green Orange at April 10, 2021 12:57 PM (AHq56)
Spoiler- you can't have a utopia anyway because human nature and fallibility will never allow for it to be turned into the perfect cog which that machine requires.Posted by: Bete
The Left/Prog/Lib/Dem denies that there IS such a thing as human nature. Curious, because in 5,000 or so years of recorded history, and 10,000 or so years of historical record, the *sole* constant *has* been human nature. Civilizations, societies, political structures, have risen/fallen, but the one constant remains. They are just certain that given control, they can change that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 10, 2021 12:58 PM (WD9ZA)
Posted by:Notorious BFDat April 10, 2021 12:29 PM (W4eKo)
--------------------------------Largest purchaser of spot radio last several weeks has been the CDC.
Posted by: olddog in mo at April 10, 2021 12:58 PM (ju2Fy)
Whenever I see something super-woke on TV, I make sure to jump to my feet, clap loudly, and scream "Finally!" or "It's about time!". If anyone objects, I ask if they're a whatever-phobe that hates whatever group was represented. I get more silent compliance than objections, which is a bad sign...
Posted by: Grimmy at April 10, 2021 12:54 PM (haqHj)
You need to dress as antifa and lite a fake molotov cocktail when you do it next time.
Posted by: Justsayin' at April 10, 2021 01:00 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by:Burnt Umberat April 10, 2021 12:59 PM (/Dgcm)
And that is when the fight broke out.Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 01:01 PM (Ojki1)
It's all so depressing and I see no way out. The enlightenment period is coming to a close, and the world will go on in darkness for at least a hundred years or so.
Posted by: InCali at April 10, 2021 01:02 PM (ov5G+)
These "governors" f'n cream their pants every time they issue an edict. The only solution I see is *types* *deletes*. Which if I say it out loud upsets the wife. Posted by: InCali at April 10, 2021 12:56 PM (ov5G+)What I find especially infuriating is that not only do these idiots ever cite any data which proves masks work, but that no one even asks them to.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2021 01:02 PM (kTF2Z)
The best possible solution at this point is a mostly peaceful dissolution and that seems unlikely but should be the endgame. The rest of the world is pulling away from D.C. and to a lesser extent London. We need to do the same individually and to the fullest extent possible politically. There is no common ground with religious fanatics hellbent on genocide. None
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 10, 2021 01:05 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 01:06 PM (Cxk7w)
Note that the law prohibiting overt psyops by the federal Government domestically with US Citizens as the target expired late in the Obama Admin.
Knowingly publishing false information to indoctrinate citizens has been totes legit the whole of Trump Era and still is during the current Harris-Biden Junta.
If you ever wondered why they get away with using taxpayers dollars to spread BS, because it is legal and for a greater cause than the greater good.
Posted by: Burnt Umber at April 10, 2021 01:07 PM (/Dgcm)
There have been many decades of specific research, including randomized controlled trials (RCTs, the gold standard), and a century of observational data, showing that masks are not effective in limiting transmission of viruses. Including large RCTs done *in this context, with this virus as the focus* (Denmark) - results do not vary. True respirators (not what almost any one is wearing, nor are they practically usable) provide *some* benefit, in a clinical context, according to research - nothing else makes any difference.
And note - even true respirators provide ONLY benefit to the wearer, not to others (kind of obvious if one understands how the work).
If one understands the actual science and history, it makes it impossible to retain any respect for the society in general - and that's on top of many other reasons to lose any such respect. We're in an ignorant, pathetic, medieval, pre-scientific society, with collapsed institutions.
And that's *on top* of the crude totalitarian racism that is the subject of the post.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2021 01:10 PM (OTzUX)
The world needs to be more like this. I am so sick of the demonrat calvinball.
(from sunnyskyz)
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 01:10 PM (E0OEG)
People who believe in freedom of speech believe in it for everyone. People who believe in rights believe in them for everyone. Not just their allies, and not just what they think is acceptable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2021 01:11 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2021 01:17 PM (kTF2Z)
Herbert Marcuse lifted the veil decades ago.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at April 10, 2021 01:18 PM (xopIz)
Oh, no can do, compadre. Ignoring their group affiliation is tantamount to denying diversity, according to recent BizLink HR training.
"WTF is "neo-confederate" thinking?
Posted by
iogenesat April 10, 2021 11:43 AM (axyOa)"It's a way of saying "NAZI" without actually calling you a NAZI. I think it involves white hoods and such.
Posted by: GWB at April 10, 2021 01:19 PM (QTm+F)
Posted by: Common Tater at April 10, 2021 01:20 PM (lKRII)
And anything by anyone (almost) on SCOTUS is believable, has been for years of course.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2021 01:21 PM (OTzUX)
It should have been 9-0. Chief Justice of the SCOTUM?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 10, 2021 01:22 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Common Tater at April 10, 2021 01:23 PM (lKRII)
Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 01:23 PM (xEIoY)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2021 01:23 PM (kTF2Z)
People who believe in freedom of speech believe in it for everyone. People who believe in rights believe in them for everyone. Not just their allies, and not just what they think is acceptable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2021 01:11 PM (KZzsI)
back when things were more normal, I would gauge someone's views on freedoms by how they responded to freedoms they did not care much about. For example, many would say "I don't care about smoker's rights because I don't smoke and don't like smoke." This was a common statement in conservative circles. My thought was always, "wait 'til they get around to something you do care about!"
Posted by: Quint at April 10, 2021 01:24 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: klaftern at April 10, 2021 01:27 PM (RuIsu)
Really sorry I'll miss it. /s
But this crap scares me more than just about anything in my lifetime (and I can remember the duck and cover drills we did in grade school). It's full on "1984" a too many folks are just accepting this with a smile. I don't get it.
Posted by: The Blech Knight at April 10, 2021 01:29 PM (doAIC)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2021 01:30 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Common Tater at April 10, 2021 01:23 PM (lKRII)
the corporations thing has to be one of the biggest changes over the last ten years or so. I recall when companies like Goldman Sachs would have half Dem and have Repub Senior VP types. The idea was they would send their people to the new administration. And when they came back, the company would have even more power. This was common knowledge back in the day. At least those guys realized the political winds changed.
Today they all go Left because only the Left scares them, and only the Left can get them insider power, and into the best parties.
Posted by: Quint at April 10, 2021 01:30 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 01:32 PM (xEIoY)
Posted by: Delurk ergo Sum at April 10, 2021 01:33 PM (YwPJG)
Posted by
uke Lowellat April 10, 2021 01:17 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Bete at April 10, 2021 01:33 PM (Ojki1)
She's been texting with her friends and they're all nearly vaccinated, so the idea of getting together is being hatched. I gotta say that is going to be so unbelievably unbearable that I might have to refuse. I have nothing in common with these people and I know they want me dead, so it's a crappy situation.
Posted by: InCali at April 10, 2021 01:33 PM (ov5G+)
Like being in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and watching the trailers full of people pods going on down the highway.
Posted by: The Blech Knight at April 10, 2021 01:35 PM (doAIC)
Posted by: Quint at April 10, 2021 01:24 PM (fjS2+)
I'm allergic to cigarette smoke. Not the tobacco, which is just leaves burning, but the chlorine processing they do to the paper it's rolled in. Not a severe allergy, just sneezing, eyes tear up, that sort of thing. Having mild allergies to the chemical reactions that come from chlorine processing of different materials is actually pretty common. Also, some leather tanning that involves the same will drive me crazy. But I can be around most cigars all day and not a single problem.
Anyway, even with all of that, I have always been against all the rules and prohibitions on smoking. Because I always knew that freedom is fungible. If it's removed somewhere then all our other freedoms are lesser for it. If I agree to have freedoms taken away it needs to be life or death. Like, no I shouldn't be allowed to go around stabbing people, I should be deprived of the freedom to do that. But much of our restrictions do not rise anywhere near that level.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 10, 2021 01:36 PM (QVkJn)
Posted by:InCaliat April 10, 2021 01:33 PM (ov5G+)
Mention a new variant that may not be stopped by the vaccine.
I hate to say it, but I am hating like I never did.
Posted by: CN at April 10, 2021 01:36 PM (ONvIw)
Right after Men's History Month. Right before Asian History Month
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2021 01:30 PM (KZzsI)
I remember when all this "history month" started a long time ago. The argument back then was that "Every month is White history month". This wasn't said with much malice, people were making a point why Black history month, and to a lesser extent, Women's history month, were a good thing. It was a different and fleeting time when things were not so hateful and rigid.
The issue I have is nothing could be further from the truth today. I doubt most study history during Black History Month, or Women's History Month. And for sure there is no chance that every other month is White History month. The reality is people writ large give a crap about history and they are not being taught history. It should be American History every month and some world history thrown in for context. But nothing could be further from our reality.
Posted by: Quint at April 10, 2021 01:37 PM (fjS2+)
They even have warnings before television shows about smoking, along with nudity and violence. Amazing Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 01:32 PM (xEIoY)Warning: The following program contains scenes that depict white people in a positive light. Viewer discretion advised.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2021 01:37 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2021 01:38 PM (40xRT)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 10, 2021 01:40 PM (IYHxL)
The dearth of education on the founding, nay, of basic Civics in this country is gobsmacking.
I infer that he thinks the political branches take an oath to defend the Supreme Court rather than the Constitution.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 10, 2021 01:40 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 10, 2021 01:40 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by:Only Context
And, still I persist. It's fun in the afternoons to stand outside of the office on a smoke break and watch the masked people go in the building. (still a little chilly for yard work in the shade right now.)
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 01:43 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 01:43 PM (xEIoY)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2021 01:43 PM (40xRT)
There is no depth and no real encouragement to seek the real depth that goes into the study of history to understand its meaning. Posted by: Only Context
Context and history can't be part of any ethnic/racial boosterism. It's propaganda all the way down .
Posted by: Goa'uld at April 10, 2021 01:45 PM (pAjZN)
Posted by:Aetius451AD work phoneat April 10, 2021 01:40 PM (40xRT)
And I never felt this way before. Yes I felt irritated and that people were naive during the reign of O, but I didn't hate them or feel like they hated me. Yes they wanted to "lecture" and I could shut that off. Now, I really want nothing to do with them at all and I seem them as malignant. The people and groups that are trying to point the finger at others are the worst for me.Posted by: CN at April 10, 2021 01:46 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 01:47 PM (Cxk7w)
Good grief, everything is so ugly now. My wife says she doesn't understand what that means, and I have no way of explaining it. She's been texting with her friends and they're all nearly vaccinated, so the idea of getting together is being hatched. I gotta say that is going to be so unbelievably unbearable that I might have to refuse. I have nothing in common with these people and I know they want me dead, so it's a crappy situation. Posted by: InCali at April 10, 2021 01:33 PM (ov5G+)
There was a type of architecture that was called "brutalist". Grand and complex, and new, in defiance of norms, and soul-crushingly ugly.
The architecture of our society, our relations to one another, the nature of public discourse, the endless instructions and commands, all of it has become brutalist. The reshaping and corrupting influences that the left was once satisfied to suffer upon our poor buildings, they are now applying to the very geometry of our lives.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 10, 2021 01:49 PM (QVkJn)
Posted by: CN at April 10, 2021 01:46 PM (ONvIw)
Yeah, I kinda feel this way too. However I try to remember that most people don't know jackshit about history or politics.
In fact, I had a theory I discussed with a family member of mine and I think that a lot of the LIVs, are afraid of saying "I don't know" or "I'm not sure" when it comes to current events or topics. They want to be "informed" so they watch the news and are now "informed" and don't have to worry about looking stupid.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 10, 2021 01:51 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 01:55 PM (xEIoY)
Posted by: klaftern at April 10, 2021 02:01 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by:thathalfrican - The Oneat April 10, 2021 01:51 PM (IYHxL)
This does not make them less dangerous, it gives them a sense of unwarranted confidence.
The people I am detesting are the ones who should know better, but do absolutely know that pointing a finger at someone and calling them racists will jeopardize them and do it with the goal of removing all taint from themselves, the ones wagging their fingers. It's a very scary time in this country.
Posted by: CN at April 10, 2021 02:01 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 02:01 PM (xEIoY)
And BTW, what kind of 45 carbine did you get? I think there's only one or two brands, but I forget the names. Very good choice for general purpose home defense, I think. PCCs are easy to use effectively.
And what if any is the buzz on how the trial verdict will affect your situation, I mean are "festivities" anticipated, either way?
Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2021 02:06 PM (OTzUX)
True.
And with people still LARPing like we're in an actual Black Plague scenario....the Branch Covidians are a real thing.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at April 10, 2021 02:07 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: KT at April 10, 2021 02:11 PM (BVQ+1)
Posted by: CN at April 10, 2021 02:11 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: InCali at April 10, 2021 02:11 PM (ov5G+)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 10, 2021 02:13 PM (2DOZq)
The dearth of education on the founding, nay, of basic Civics in this country is gobsmacking.
I infer that he thinks the political branches take an oath to defend the Supreme Court rather than the Constitution.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 10, 2021 01:40 PM (yQpMk)
could you give some more context here? I am not up for a huge debate at this juncture lol. But I thought that is exactly what the Supreme Court is supposed to do. The Legislator makes the laws, the Executive runs the federal gov and pushes the laws they want, and the SC decides if they are Constitutional. Sure everyone should be looking towards the Constitution whenever they act, no doubt there.
Posted by: Quint at April 10, 2021 02:17 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 10, 2021 01:40 PM (yQpMk)
After a reread, I think I get what you are saying. I think I said that above, but yeah, they all should be looking towards the Constitution and acting within its limits.
Posted by: Quint at April 10, 2021 02:19 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: Last at April 10, 2021 02:22 PM (BdIMF)
Posted by: Last at April 10, 2021 02:24 PM (BdIMF)
Posted by:CN
It's insane. There are 10 people in our little office. Only myself and one other person hasn't had the vaccination. The two of us are the only ones that don't wear masks.
I find myself becoming more hermit like and I hate it.
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 02:24 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 10, 2021 02:28 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 02:36 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: Last at April 10, 2021 02:24 PM (BdIMF)
lol, that has to be one of the best all time.
Posted by: Quint at April 10, 2021 02:38 PM (fjS2+)
I read the wikipuddle article.
Interesting guy.
Posted by: fluffy goes retro at April 10, 2021 02:39 PM (UnQlg)
Posted by: olddog in mo at April 10, 2021 02:43 PM (ju2Fy)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2021 02:46 PM (kTF2Z)
lddog in moat April 10, 2021 02:43 PM (ju2F
Be still my heart.
I could maybe retire now, if I relocated to a smaller less expensive place.
Where do I sign up?
Posted by: Infidel at April 10, 2021 02:47 PM (E0OEG)
Posted by: SFGoth at April 10, 2021 02:49 PM (M4H3U)
When is white history month?
I'm dreaming of a white history month ; font-family: " amazon="Amazon" ember="Ember">Just like the ones I used to know
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 10, 2021 02:56 PM (VVEnO)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 10, 2021 03:03 PM (rV/29)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 10, 2021 03:05 PM (rV/29)
Someone(s) needs to go UNDER, not in, the jail for this. Or maybe in front of an angry mob then walk away from the culprits.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 10, 2021 03:15 PM (KATBx)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 10, 2021 03:19 PM (rV/29)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 10, 2021 03:21 PM (rV/29)
News video said things aren't going to change here until we have people in the streets like Poland in the 80s. Posted by: Braenyard at April 10, 2021 03:19 PM (rV/29)I believe that. These petty tyrants aren't giving up their new found power willingly.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2021 03:25 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 04:22 PM (xEIoY)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 10, 2021 12:55 PM (OTzUX)
@rhomboid, I'm usually more pessimistic than you are, but I'm a lot less concerned over the long term. I think we're in pre-Thatcher Britain, or Jimmy Carter on steroids. I think we can come out of this with more post-racial American unity than anyone would have thought possible. The idiocy is showing itself plainly to be idiocy, and the incompetence of these people is going to drive them out of power. (Plus the infighting, but mostly the incompetence.) The next few years will be ugly, but we will get through it.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 10, 2021 04:25 PM (PpJgl)
Posted by:Caesar North of the Rubiconat April 10, 2021 04:25 PM (PpJgl)
I literally have zero percent of this kind of optimism. I hope you're right.
Interesting times indeed.
Posted by: weirdflunky at April 10, 2021 04:36 PM (cknjq)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 04:37 PM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 04:38 PM (Cxk7w)
Posted by: Only Context at April 10, 2021 05:11 PM (xEIoY)
Turned me rightward forever.
Posted by: PJ at April 10, 2021 05:21 PM (G1dq6)
Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2021 05:26 PM (Cxk7w)
Nevertheless, here we are.
Posted by: weirdflunky at April 10, 2021 05:35 PM (cknjq)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 10, 2021 05:40 PM (rV/29)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 10, 2021 05:42 PM (rV/29)
test line break
The quick fox jumped over the lazy brown dog...
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!
Trump won...
By a lot!!
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